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Fire posted:I just heard it on the news. Possibly. Another device supposedly started the fire at the JFK Library, and on-site reports at the finish line are saying that there's no broken pavement, making a gas leak unlikely.
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Vermain posted:The current confirmed numbers from the Boston PD is around 22 injured, 2 dead. Just heard the same through AP/BBC. Definitely looks like terrorism, given multiple sources of explosions here but none of the damage that usually attends gas explosions.
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Vermain posted:Possibly. Another device supposedly started the fire at the JFK Library, and on-site reports at the finish line are saying that there's no broken pavement, making a gas leak unlikely. The pictures of the explosion show a fireball though, so not high explosives or anything like that.
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Its so fucked that I am actually hoping its a terrible accident and not something deliberate
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A DENVER FAX posted:Its so fucked that I am actually hoping its a terrible accident and not something deliberate Not at all. If this is deliberate we can most likely look forward to more people killed, after all.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:12 |
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Is there ever a situation you would want a bomb to be deliberate instead of an accident?
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Failboattootoot posted:It's ok, MSNBC reports that nobody was hurt in the library fire and it is already put out. Damages should be minimal. I know, but damn, not the Cuban Missile Crisis archives! ![]() It was terrorism. The bombs went off just as a large group of runners crossed the finish line.
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Vermain posted:Possibly. Another device supposedly started the fire at the JFK Library, and on-site reports at the finish line are saying that there's no broken pavement, making a gas leak unlikely. http://www.dotnews.com/2013/jfk-lib...marathon-attack The JFK fire wasn't related.
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Mr. Peepers posted:Is there ever a situation you would want a bomb to be deliberate instead of an accident? It's more that the majority of my concern is on the future impact and not the immediate tragedy that bugs me
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:15 |
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![]() ![]() Has quite a few pics from the scene that is being updated. Fire posted:I just heard it on the news. Nothing official of course, but i think that this is. Could be home grown or foreign. With respect to the injured, this attack was designed to be replayed in the media over and over.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:19 |
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BREAKING: Small homemade bomb is preliminary cause of explosion at Boston Marathon, law enforcement officials tell NBC News
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@TimWilliamsCBS: #BREAKINGNEWS: AP reporter says Newtown families were in the VIP section right by the explosion.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:19 |
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Considering the amount of crazy shooters we tend to have, who have also stockpiled explosives as well, it's interesting people would think of North Korea than just another Lanza or any other crazed killer.
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V-Men posted:Considering the amount of crazy shooters we tend to have, who have also stockpiled explosives as well, it's interesting people would think of North Korea than just another Lanza or any other crazed killer. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that anyone goes on shooting sprees when you can just blow shit up, but then again, I don't really understand why anyone targets people indiscriminately like this.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:25 |
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Domestic Terrorist is sounding more likely by the moment. Why would Al-Qaeda or any large organization or nation risk the US coming down on them just to bomb a race? 911 went after the capitol and the pentagon in addition to all the civillians, after all, to say nothing of the World Trade Center's economic value.
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Mordiceius posted:@TimWilliamsCBS: #BREAKINGNEWS: AP reporter says Newtown families were in the VIP section right by the explosion. This is going to be some lunatic who thinks they were all faking their kids getting shot, isn't it? ![]()
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:25 |
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The only thing I can think of is that its tax day. Could be a crazed lunatic but that is 100% speculation.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:26 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:Domestic Terrorist is sounding more likely by the moment. Why would Al-Qaeda or any large organization or nation risk the US coming down on them just to bomb a race? 911 went after the capitol and the pentagon in addition to all the civillians, after all, to say nothing of the World Trade Center's economic value. There is no value to speculation at all. There is no available information that woud indicate who is behind this.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:26 |
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Quoting an "intelligence official," the Associated Press reports that "two more explosive devices" were found at the marathon and were "being dismantled." A bomb squad set off a "planned explosion" at the site earlier, according to scanner activity. We don't yet have confirmation from authorities of an explosive device.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:27 |
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Yeah but the domestic groups tend government buildings. AQ has been on the ropes lately, they'd have a huge incentive to show they can still inflict damage. It's really too early to say anything concrete though, this is just speculation.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:28 |
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The ap is reporting that the PD has found and dismantled two additional devices. If that is true, that is both good news because it could have been worse and it gives the forensic people something to work with.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:28 |
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Any more info about the supposed ball bearings found at the scene?
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:28 |
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quote:Two bombs in two different locations detonated next to the Boston Marathon finish line this afternoon, about three hours after the winners crossed the line. The Boston Fire Department estimates that the first explosion occurred at 2:50 PM. The Boston Police Department says that at least 28 people are injured and 2 people are dead.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:29 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:Domestic Terrorist is sounding more likely by the moment. Why would Al-Qaeda or any large organization or nation risk the US coming down on them just to bomb a race? 911 went after the capitol and the pentagon in addition to all the civillians, after all, to say nothing of the World Trade Center's economic value.
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http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.ne...8561879.jpgThis picture speculates that the bomb was placed in a mailbox. gohmak fucked around with this message at Apr 15, 2013 around 12:35 |
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Mister Adequate posted:Yeah but the domestic groups tend government buildings. AQ has been on the ropes lately, they'd have a huge incentive to show they can still inflict damage. It's really too early to say anything concrete though, this is just speculation.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Domestic Terrorist is sounding more likely by the moment. Why would Al-Qaeda or any large organization or nation risk the US coming down on them just to bomb a race? 911 went after the capitol and the pentagon in addition to all the civillians, after all, to say nothing of the World Trade Center's economic value. Well, just in regards to the notion of Islamic terrorism, the concern isn't so much the large organization organizing an attack, it's an inspired or affiliated small group that holds to the same ideals. At that point, large symbolic targets tend to give way to softer targets, as small groups have less resources to conduct any kind of attack or planning. As for state-sponsored, yeah, there's no real gain to bombing a marathon. How could that conceivably cause the United States to adopt a more isolationist foreign policy? Because a few dozen were killed in a bombing?
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:32 |
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Slate @Slate 2m RT @reutersus: Boston police confirms another explosion at JFK Library #breaking Are we sure this is still unrelated? Bombs are still going off.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:38 |
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Yeah, BBC is saying three explosions now but perhaps they are just parroting Reuters.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:42 |
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Take with a grain of salt, it's the New York Post: BREAKING NEWS Authorities ID a suspect in marathon bombings - he is being guarded in Boston hospital
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Lycus posted:Yeah, the first thing this made me think of was Eric Rudolph bombing the park, so I'm expecting a domestic wacko. That's usually the safer bet. It's easier for a basement dwelling loon with little to no contact with others who makes their own pipe-bombs from scratch/has a gun to go unnoticed while they prepare for an attack like this than any group of people doing the same with even limited contact with the rest of the world.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:43 |
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Highspeeddub posted:Slate @Slate 2m Do you have a link for this?
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SirFozzie posted:Take with a grain of salt, it's the New York Post: They also said 12 dead and 50 injured, so
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Fire posted:The only thing I can think of is that its tax day. Could be a crazed lunatic but that is 100% speculation.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:45 |
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Do you have a link for this? Beeb just had it too, via Reuters, but it's not clear whether it was controlled or not yet.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:46 |
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On one hand, my first instinct was to think this was probably some sort of lone nut or domestic terrorist. On the other hand, the way they are describing this, with there being multiple bombs strewn about the area in strategic locations, makes me wonder how much planning and effort had to go into this.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:46 |
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WBZ just reported that they've identified a man carrying multiple backpacks from surveillance tape that is being reviewed. (EDIT: They report that the man was seen dropping the backpack into one of the trashcans that exploded) Sounds like we found our bomber.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:46 |
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SirFozzie posted:WBZ just reported that they've identified a man carrying multiple backpacks from surveillance tape that is being reviewed. Or a homeless guy.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:47 |
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See my update, this person apparently was seen dropping a backpack into a garbage can where the explosion occured (per WBZ-TV)
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 12:49 |
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zoux posted:Or a homeless guy. Or a guy carrying the packs of his buddies who are runnign the race.
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