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Spiritus Nox posted:Not necessarily. Might have been waiting for a greater concentration of runners - if it was planned that well, anyway. If this was the point, why not set it off at the start? Much greater concentration of people at the starting line.
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A DENVER FAX posted:Its interesting the bomb did not go off when the winner crossed the finish line. Not enough of a crowd probably, or you can't really estimate when they'll cross the line.
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Again, this is what we know: 1) Three devices went off in Boston. Two occured within 20 seconds of each other at the finish line of the marathon, and were explosives. A better YouTube link can be found here. The third caused a fire at the JFK library. 2) An individual was seen on video placing backpacks inside the trash cans that exploded at the finish line. 3) No other devices have been found. 4) 2 people are dead, 23 injured.
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A Winner is Jew posted:And it's started. Not to undermine the tragedy of today, but I really don't think the body count will come close to 911, to say nothing of their continued insistance on pretending that Bush was sworn in on September 12.
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The Boston Globe @BostonGlobe 3m MARATHON EXPLOSIONS: Boston hospitals report more than 100 being treated after Marathon explosions.
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syntaxrigger posted:If you know anyone that needs to find someone that was at the race today, Google set up a person finder. I'd post the number too but I don't have it. If you are trying to locate someone, call: 617-635-4500. If you have any information about the explosions, call: 1-800-494-TIPS
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Again, this is what we know: Expect a flood of 'reported explosions' as EoD goes to work throughout the day too. So don't get paranoid, keep your wits up and we'll let you know as new and solid info comes up
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Gonzo McFee posted:You put something like "A source says". That way it's not you making shit up, it's your source. Just because the source is someone like Derek from accounting saying "Probably a Muzzie" doesn't mean it's not a source.
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CommieGIR posted:Not enough of a crowd probably, or you can't really estimate when they'll cross the line. Former police commissioner on MSNBC claimed that there was actually a BIGGER crowd when the first runner crossed. The crowd had thinned over the two hours between that and the explosion.
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Capt. Sticl posted:Former police commissioner on MSNBC claimed that there was actually a BIGGER crowd when the first runner crossed. The crowd had thinned over the two hours between that and the explosion. Well we don't know how the device was set to trigger either, Boston Police thinks Cell phone, but you figure if that was true the device would have gone off earlier. Either way, we don't know enough about the triggers and device yet. EoD will probably be working into the early hours of the morning
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Capt. Sticl posted:Former police commissioner on MSNBC claimed that there was actually a BIGGER crowd when the first runner crossed. The crowd had thinned over the two hours between that and the explosion. Yeah, thats why I was interested.
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Gonzo McFee posted:It's also the New York Post. They'll be outright making shit up to get page views right up until the point where actual evidence shows up and then all the old stuff will be quietly discarded.
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Has anyone said at what time backpack dude was seen supposedly putting backpacks in receptacles?
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:15 |
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I feel like a bit of a jerk for feeling this way but this doesn't seem to be a particularly effective act of terrorism. I mean two dead and twenty three injured is terrible but its also a pretty low number. The perpetrator could have done way more if he'd used an automatic weapon, so I'm guessing that its amateur domestic terrorism executed by somebody who barely had any idea of what they were doing but also isn't committed enough to go down shooting. I guess I'm just desensitized because I do not feel terrified at all.
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The only true way to evaluate a terrorist attack is not by the body count, but by the reaction of the victim state after the attack.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:17 |
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How are u posted:I feel like a bit of a jerk for feeling this way but this doesn't seem to be a particularly effective act of terrorism. I mean two dead and twenty three injured is terrible but its also a pretty low number. The perpetrator could have done way more if he'd used an automatic weapon, so I'm guessing that its amateur domestic terrorism executed by somebody who barely had any idea of what they were doing but also isn't committed enough to go down shooting. I would not be surprised if it was planned to be a larger coordinated explosion and most of the bombs were duds
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This is bringing back a lot of strange memories of watching the Waco compound burn on the news as the runners walked past my dorm in their space blankets. It is too soon to make that connection, but it still is very odd. It was 20 years ago, but the day is off as Patriots Day is always a Monday.
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How are u posted:I feel like a bit of a jerk for feeling this way but this doesn't seem to be a particularly effective act of terrorism. I mean two dead and twenty three injured is terrible but its also a pretty low number. The perpetrator could have done way more if he'd used an automatic weapon, so I'm guessing that its amateur domestic terrorism executed by somebody who barely had any idea of what they were doing but also isn't committed enough to go down shooting. Hope it's not something like the beginning of an IRAesque style terrorist campaign, with lots of small attacks all over the place.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:18 |
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Like how people on the news are saying "were they terrorists or were they homegrown?" As if terrorists are only foreigners.
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JT Jag posted:I understand that, but it's just the extensiveness of it all that throws me. Dumping two packages containing bombs into separate trash cans and setting them to explode at the same time isn't exactly rocket science. Terrorism really is not all that difficult to pull off without the support of a large group. Glimm posted:If this was the point, why not set it off at the start? Much greater concentration of people at the starting line. Reports of the guy placing backpacks in trashcans say he did so 20-30 minutes before the explosions, so it's quite possible that he didn't plant them before the race. Why? Who knows? Maybe he thought he'd be less suspicious after the race's climax, maybe he didn't have the opportunity to get over there without raising suspicion till then.
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How are u posted:I feel like a bit of a jerk for feeling this way but this doesn't seem to be a particularly effective act of terrorism. I mean two dead and twenty three injured is terrible but its also a pretty low number. The perpetrator could have done way more if he'd used an automatic weapon, so I'm guessing that its amateur domestic terrorism executed by somebody who barely had any idea of what they were doing but also isn't committed enough to go down shooting. I'm in the same boat. I mean, this is tragic and I don't want to minimize the damage, but when I think of this compared to the number and kinds of accidental deaths I can't get that excited about it. I mean, if we got this kind of news coverage every time two people died of preventable disease there wouldn't be room for any other news.
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How are u posted:I feel like a bit of a jerk for feeling this way but this doesn't seem to be a particularly effective act of terrorism. I mean two dead and twenty three injured is terrible but its also a pretty low number. The perpetrator could have done way more if he'd used an automatic weapon, so I'm guessing that its amateur domestic terrorism executed by somebody who barely had any idea of what they were doing but also isn't committed enough to go down shooting. Three went off, several duds found.
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How are u posted:I feel like a bit of a jerk for feeling this way but this doesn't seem to be a particularly effective act of terrorism. I mean two dead and twenty three injured is terrible but its also a pretty low number. The perpetrator could have done way more if he'd used an automatic weapon, so I'm guessing that its amateur domestic terrorism executed by somebody who barely had any idea of what they were doing but also isn't committed enough to go down shooting. 9/11 isn't the standard. This is the average terrorist attack. Lot of damage, handful of wounded, few dead. You'd be a lot more terrified if you were there. Iraqi elections are going on at the moment too, aren't they?
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Three went off, several duds found. No other devices have been found.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:No other devices have been found. They just reported on MSNBC that they found another unexploded device.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:20 |
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CommieGIR posted:Either way, we don't know enough about the triggers and device yet. EoD will probably be working into the early hours of the morning Nor will we ever. EOD doesn't talk about what they find. Many of Ted Kaczynski's methods are still secret.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:21 |
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WaterIsPoison posted:The only true way to evaluate a terrorist attack is not by the body count, but by the reaction of the victim state after the attack. This is obviously quite true and I hope that the rest of the country ends up feeling the same way I do.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:21 |
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jesus, Wolf Blitzer seriously just asked a runner if they would want to run next year. Fuck you Wolf Blitzer
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:22 |
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Is there actually a suspect in custody or was that also NYP "reporting"?
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Intruder posted:Is there actually a suspect in custody or was that also NYP "reporting"? Yeah no suspect
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Intruder posted:Is there actually a suspect in custody or was that also NYP "reporting"? Would it is just the NYP being stupid. Having a suspect would be all over other outlets if it were true.
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computer parts posted:They just reported on MSNBC that they found another unexploded device. Have there been any other confirming reports? Early on there were reports of many devices, but the last press conference was adamant that only three had exploded and no others had been discovered.
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A DENVER FAX posted:jesus, Wolf Blitzer seriously just asked a runner if they would want to run next year. I wish I could be paid a lot of money to grow a beard and say stupid stuff and ask stupid questions on cable TV.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:23 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:No other devices have been found. According to MSNBC ticker just now there have been two dismantled, but you can't rely on a frenzied media too much.
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Capt. Sticl posted:Would it is just the NYP being stupid. Having a suspect would be all over other outlets if it were true. Apparently Fox News reported the same thing NY Post reported.
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Main Paineframe posted:Dumping two packages containing bombs into separate trash cans and setting them to explode at the same time isn't exactly rocket science. Terrorism really is not all that difficult to pull off without the support of a large group.
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A DENVER FAX posted:jesus, Wolf Blitzer seriously just asked a runner if they would want to run next year. ![]()
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:25 |
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djw175 posted:Apparently Fox News reported the same thing NY Post reported. Frankly, exactly as reputable.
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# ? Apr 15, 2013 13:25 |
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greatn posted:According to MSNBC ticker just now there have been two dismantled, but you can't rely on a frenzied media too much. Yeah, that's why I'm saying what we "know". The press conference clarified no devices had been found in spite of media reports of others. If there's multiple reports that's one thing, but a single MSNBC feed is supposition.
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This NYP stuff really pisses me off. Are there any countries that we would consider to have reasonable freedom of press that also have restrictions on just making shit up? If so, what do those statutes look like?
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